I used to throw mainly destroyers once my arm speed got high enough, sidearm and backhand. Then I discovered the Sword. Dispite what the flight numbers say a Sword is slightly more understable than a star Destroyer in my opinion. It's is my main backhand driver now, and I have 3 of them. This was the first disc I could throw 400+. The have a beautiful, long, and straight flight when throw flat and hard, but I can hyzerflip 1 of mine and get an S shaped shot. One of my favorite discs for sure. I prefer the Tournament plastic, but V.I.P is great as well.