When I first started playing disc golf I had 2 discs. One of those discs was a red Champion Firebird, and the only way I knew how to throw was overhand! Thumbers and Tomahawks!! I've come a long way since then, but I will always have at least one firebird!! I upgraded to the Sexton, but I still have to have at least one in my bag for utility overhands and forehands.